Pinocchiobama

**US_Snyper** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: Pinocchiobama

Here is an article I found from RedState Underfire...thought Tarp1 one would like it....enjoy.

Barack Obama seeks to portray himself as a new type of politician. He wants to lead us, he says, with hope for the future, change in the present and repudiation of the past eight years so that America can exchange the failed policies of the last eight years for those of the past one hundred years, He seeks, if you will, to transcend politics. But if you were to take an objective look at Obama, you could reasonably conclude that Obama transcends politics by making the typical politician appear more honest. With each passing day, a new lie springs forth from Obama�s mouth causing university professors and ivy league graduates to faint at the non-truth that affirms their world view.

In 1996, Barack Obama�s campaign responded to a questionnaire by indicating that Obama favored bans of the manufacturing and selling of guns, opposed parental notification of abortions for minors, and opposed the death penalty. When asked about that, Obama threw his campaign staff under the bus, claiming the staff had sent in the questionnaire. He issued a blanket denial that he had ever held those positions. Except that is not true. As RedState noted, a review of the actual document shows �that [Obama] reviewed the answers closely enough to revise some of the answers in his own handwriting.�

On Afghanistan, Barack Obama claims to be the only politician willing to re-engage the Taliban. He faults the Bush Administration for depleting the number of military personnel in Afghanistan and claims we need to increase the number of ground forces to 92,000 troops, something Obama says the Bush administration is opposed to. Funny how Secretary of Defense Robert Gates offered the exact same policy prescription and number of troops back in 2007.

On Iraq, Obama accuses John McCain of wanting a one hundred year war in Iraq. Speaking on MSNBC�s Hardball, Obama said, �John McCain got upset today apparently because I had repeated exactly what he said, which is that we might be there [Iraq] for 100 years if he had his way.� Only, that is another lie. As RedState documented, the Washington Post�s FactCheck, the Annenberg Public Policy Center�s nonpartisan FactCheck.org, and the Columbia Journalism Review all report Obama�s words were grossly misleading. The Annenberg Public Policy Center called Obama�s statement a �serious distortion to the point of rank falsehood.�

Obama�s latest lie is, to the paragons of political virtue, perhaps his worst. Campaigning in Pennsylvania, Obama is running a television ad in which he says, "I�m Barack Obama. I don�t take money from oil companies or Washington lobbyists, and I won�t let them block change anymore." That�s not exactly true. First, no candidate can take money from oil companies; corporations are prohibited from giving money. Corporations can, however, give a maximum contribution of $5,000.00 to a candidate via a political action committee (�PAC�). Obama has not received that $5,000.00. Instead, he has taken in $213,000.00 from individuals who work for oil companies. While Chevron could have only given him $5,000.00 through its PAC, Obama took in $9,500.00 from Chevron employees. That $213,000.00 total from oil company employees does not even include the money from lobbyists Obama took but claims he did not take.

Whether lying about his resume, quitting smoking, or what he did or did not know about Reverend Wright, Barack Obama is telling the truth on one issue: he is not your typical politician. A typical politician could never have told as many lies as Barack Obama and been given a free pass by the traditional media.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25893

**spikefar** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:39 am Post subject:

Funny how none of this makes it to prime time TV news, huh? Though they don't seem to hesitate to broadcast tons of bad press for McCain.

"What liberal media slant?"

**Pudster11** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:36 am Post subject:

That's because the press is mainly made up of left wing liberal types

Also, it is very typical for the left to make their policy decisions based on poles. They suck up to the special interest groups (gays, muslims, BALD people) because that's where their votes are. The right wing make the hard decisions that the left can't make due to politically correctness

**Triton8** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:50 am Post subject:

You got that right, Pud. And those BALD voters are a tough group to please.

Good post Snyper.

Good Op Ed piece in McPaper today about Obama's "patriotism" speech. Worth a read.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/07/obamas-real-pat.html#more

**DieTibbettsDie** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject:

Great article Triton

**US_Snyper** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject:

Triton8 wrote:

You got that right, Pud. And those BALD voters are a tough group to please.

Good post Snyper.

Good Op Ed piece in McPaper today about Obama's "patriotism" speech. Worth a read.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/07/obamas-real-pat.html#more

I read that article when I got lunch..usually get the usa today and have a sandwich from the deli....this Obama guy scares the crap outta me sometimes.....also did yiou read the article on Bush signing the $162B war bill it includes this as part of the bill

The package approved by Congress includes a doubling of GI Bill college benefits for troops and veterans. It also provides a 13-week extension of unemployment benefits, $2.7 billion in emergency flood relief for the Midwest and tens of billions of dollars for food aid, anti-drug enforcement, Louisiana levee repairs and other items.

Kinda sorta exciting week..... hamster

**spikefar** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject:

Funny, also, how anything good or positive that Bush does also never makes it into the nightly news broadcasts.

Not that I'm saying there's a left wing media bias, no, not at all...

"We will control what you see and hear, we control the horizontal, we control the vertical..."

**Tarp1** · ** First Sergeant ** Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 943

Human events .com Leading the conservative movement since 1944.
You gotta be fukin kiddin me!
Do you know this website is the biggest bunch of bullshit. I cant believe your gonna try to pawn this right wing attack website off as news. Why dont you just start quoting bill o'Reilly!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL what a joke!!!!!!!!!!
you know why you dont see this on the mainstream news ?
Because it isnt true!!!!!!
get me this information from a reputable source please.

Tarp

**Pudster11** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject:

BY REPUTABLE SOURCE DO YOU MEAN MSNBC, THE NEW YORK TIMES. THEY ARE REPUTABLE IF YOU'RE A LEFT WING TARD

**Triton8** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject:

Holy crap, look who doesn't like websites being references. Your "sources" are just as biased as you claim these to be. Seriously, why is everything you read or see fact, but we have junk?

**Tarp1** · ** First Sergeant ** Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 943

Ok let me get this straight, i cant use msnbc or the ny times? Why because rupert murdoch doesnt own them?
We have to agree to get news from somewhere or there is no point in arguing at all.
i do not accept a news organization that defines ITSELF as leading the conservative
movement.
the conservative movement has been in power in this country for 28 out of 40 years.
And the last 8 of the domocrat years was bill clinton, who left a budget surplus and thriving economy .
After 8 years of the republicans , what do we have? You answer that question and try to rationalize a defense for them . Your all blind.

So please spare me that bullshit

tarp aka [the not so blind]
P.S. And they even have a link so that you can get Ann Coulter's scathing remarks by email every week! yeah wtf

**US_Snyper** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:

Triton8 wrote:

Holy crap, look who doesn't like websites being references. Your "sources" are just as biased as you claim these to be. Seriously, why is everything you read or see fact, but we have junk?

Because Tarp is never wrong....ever...sheeesh ....TriTri don't you know anything! We do not have the right to have an opinion..its crap if its from us but the truth when he gets it....no news media is more truthful than the next in my opinion..all the news is is someones opinion on what transpaired backed by a controlkling intrest..they decide what they want us to here be it left wing or right wing.....just so happens most of the news media is controlled by left wingers like ole Tarpy do dah ... reminds me of a kid I used to hang with he was ok dishing it out..but never ever try to have an opinion of your own because you are not allowed too have one and no matter what you say your opinion means nada....what a freakin joke..... cackle

Bunch Crap�

**spikefar** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject:

Tarp1 wrote:

Human events .com Leading the conservative movement since 1944.
You gotta be fukin kiddin me!
Do you know this website is the biggest bunch of bullshit. I cant believe your gonna try to pawn this right wing attack website off as news. Why dont you just start quoting bill o'Reilly!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL what a joke!!!!!!!!!!
you know why you dont see this on the mainstream news ?
Because it isnt true!!!!!!
get me this information from a reputable source please.

Tarp

Hey, Tarp, to piggy-back on what everyone else said here, why are your left wing slanted news sources reliable, but the conservative ones aren't? I've got to say that's the pot calling the kettle black right there.

Also, since you keep touting the economy under clinton, remember that policies enacted take time to have an effect. The clearest effect clinton had on the economy was shown in it's starting to tank at the end of his term and full blown hitting bottom right after he left office. But, from a higer view, relaize that the government doesn't control our economy, market forces do. That's why it's called capitalism. Say it with me now, "C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-M". Not socialism, not communism. Yes, we have some government controls and regulation, but this country was founded on a capitalist economy and remains so to this day, even if you don't believe it. We only pass laws to prevent people/coorporations from making too much money and having too much control.

Also, let's not forget that clinton allowed Osama bin Laden to escape when given the chance to get him. Thus I blame 9/11 squarely on ole Billy-Boy. Oh, and, sicne you love blasting this war in Iraq, how about all the places Clinton sent us into? Somalia ring a bell? (Yeah, that turned out great, huh?) We went in there for human rights abuses, right? What about Kosovo? Did you bash the war there and all the civilian casualties? We went in there, as NATO, because of the atrocities. Was that one ok because Bubba was president and you like him, or because they are Europeans? But with Bush in office, the left in control of the media and oil in Iraq, suddenly this is an evil war all about profit for him and his cronies. I don't know about you, but I see a double standard here.

But hey, we had that same problems when quoting news sources, right?

Oh, and... before you go there, again... yes, stability in the middle east is important, for our commitments to Isreal, our trading partners, world stability in general, and yes, oil. (There, I said it, happy?) Most of the world depends on it to fuel their economies. To include to an even greater extent than us, our European and Japanese allies. The current strategy is to promote stability and democracy in the middle east. Take away the fanatics running horrible third world countries and you reduce the number of people with nothing to live for and thus willing to die as a suicide bomber. (I said reduce, not eliminate.) It's started in Afghanistand and now Iraq, and democracy is contagious. Besides, look at what trouble just one little piss-ant sh*t hole country (Afghanistan) caused for us when the maniacs were left free to rule and preach their hatred to their masses.

**Pudster11** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject:

Right on the money Spike. Tarp is so informed by the lefty crap from MSNBC and the NY TImes but we should never ever ever ever listen to FoxNews and O'Riley even though the owner of FoxNews endorsed Hilary"Tarp's hero Clinton" The reason the Republicans have ruled for 28 of 40 years is because the American people have voted for them in the Democracy. They didn't take control, they were voted in by the MAJORITY. Tarp and the lefties are the MINORITY and that's the way things work in a DEMOCRACY. You don't like it, move close to Eastern Canada where you can be the MAJORITY or to France or maybe to a Middle Eastern country where the MAJORITY has no say at all and is killed, tortured etc for trying to have a say. The US is in Iraq to liberate an oppressed MAJORITY of people so they have a say and get rid of all the extremists that want to keep it in the 4th century. Did you never think that the reason the military is there albeit under false pretences of WMD to drag a huge amount of the extremist muslims there where the military could wipe out 400,000 of the fanatics on their own soil instead of waiting for more 9/11s. Wake up Tarp and look at the big picture, the left want to bury their head in the sand and pretend that all they have to look after is on their own soil and no one will bother them. As Borat would say.....................NOT

Sometimes you have to take the fight to the enemy instead of waiting for them to come after you AGAIN, get it AGAIN. They hit the world trade center under Clinton and the Dems let them regroup without consequence and then it happened on Republican watch and S*&T hit the fan as it should. YOu and your lefties think that talking with them will take care of it again NOT. They are radical morons that ride the short bus IF THEY ARE LUCKY and are a thousand or so years behind the times. The only thing they understand is force for example, Iraq was peaceful within it's borders with Sadam in power because he slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people that even thought about opposing him.

**Pudster11** · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject:

and by the way, Bill Clinton didn't do crap as far as the economy, don't even try and give him the credit for that. The Economy is global and market driven. As much as you'd like to give credit to your hero Billy Boy, it had nothing to do with him at all. The best economy ever in US history was under Ronald Reagan and I'm sure because he's a Republican you'd never admit to that so we'll completely eliminate your argument about the deficit. Carry on with another left wing slant now. Maybe the price of cheese in France